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Russia will determine the terms of any "treaty" arrangement as this US-NATO-UK Ukrainian Proxy War to weaken Russia enters its terminal phase - The Winter Offensive. It is lost - to Russia.

Much is made in the Western mainstream of "losing territory".

It is not WWI and territory counts for little during this conflict.

Here, what counts is dead Ukrainian Armed Forces - their complete destruction along with the smaller presence of US-NATO-UK forces and those wide eyed misguided volunteers, read Western State sanctioned mercenaries.

In this conflict, God Favours Russia . . . https://les7eb.substack.com/p/ukraine-long-proxy-war-vi-god-favours

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There is one set of exceptions to the generalization that, from the Liberal perspective, wars are abnormal events. Liberalism is a teleological worldview and, as such, views events that advance the world to the "next" stage as necessary or desirable. Admittedly, these views were influenced by contemporary sentiments that were as Romantic as Liberal, but wars like the First Italian War of "Independence," American Civil War, and even Britain's colonial conflicts to "end slavery" in West Africa (and, for that matter, many of the colonial wars to "spread civilization" during the 18th century), and, for that matter, framing of the First World War by Wilson all drew support from the "Liberals" of the time. So it's not so much that the "Liberals" can't comprehend that deal making for averting wars is impossible under some conditions, but rather, they are inclined to believe, at least in some conditions, the obscurantist "other" on the wrong side of history are so irrational that they would not make the otherwise inevitable deals, whether they are the Habsburgs, the American Southerners, the sultans of Sokoto, or, as per time after time, the leaders of Russia and China. Of course, this brings us back to the crusading mentality of the "post Christians" per your essay some weeks back.

This, I think, leads to and is predicated on a peculiar paradox: Liberalism, again as a teleological ideology, looks askance on "backwards" societies and does not care to deal with them as equals, in good faith. So mutually satisfactory deals with them are impossible unless the "other" also embraces Liberalism--and so the inscrutable Russians, Chinese, or, for that matter, Rednecks are really forever beyond deals for the Liberals as they refuse to embrace Liberalism for some reason or another This, of course, is the formula for constant recourse to holy wars.

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