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"Oh, there were a few people with fantasies of rolling towards the Russian frontier, but they weren’t influential."

Those people are in the driver's seat now, and Russian dithering and indecision have them licking their chops. Stop kidding yourself. NATO will only escalate, until the Americans are forced to intervene, trapped by Trump's own fool mouth and the abuse of The Sunk Cost Fallacy.

The history of American involvement in WWI, the first time that europeans called on the United States to fight their wars for them, is most instructive.

Trump may be reluctant. It doesn't matter. The missiles still will fly just the same. The war will be unpopular. It doesn't matter. Nobody cares what the masses want.

Before 1917, we also heard that the Americans could not and would not fight, for a variety of reasons. Similarly, it beggars belief that if NATO truly were out of everything from cheese curds to cat treats, that nobody in the Pentagon, nobody in Whitehall, nobody in Hexagone Balard could not recognize this and take the politicians aside and tell them that they need to stop running their yaps. And the generals, being glorified politicians, are very good at getting the message out, if the politicians won't or don't listen.

Admittedly, Epstein is the wild card.

"This can't be happening, can it? But it is". It will happen. We hear this before every escalation, that it is reckless, that it is unpopular, that it is costly, that it is likely to end in WWIII. All true. But NATO smells blood. Every time, the escalations happen just the same.

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About the NATO decision making process: Anatol Lieven once mentioned that when Georgia was supposed to become a NATO member, shortly before the war, he asked one of his contacts in the NATO headquarter what the plan was in case Georgia got into a conflict with Russia. The answer was that nobody ever mentioned this possibility. Because if anyone had brought this up this person would have been regarded as being against NATO-expansion, which would result in him being sent home and kissing his career goodbye.

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