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Kouros's avatar

Many things went wrong because after WWI and especially WWII the world had experienced (and still experiencing) siege socialism, siege pan-Africanism, siege-Islamism, etc. By which I mean the centers of political and economic power in the west (US & Europe) do not want any competition and do not want challenges to their domination. This plays a very large role in the turmoils experienced by the world after WWII.

One can see that by and large, the dissolution of the Soviet Union was relatively peaceful, with exceptions, the most relevant being the Azeri-Armenian one. The Ukraine/Russian conflict could have been avoided, and the fluctuation of power in Kiev between west and east could have become something of a Conservatives/Labour type of thing. Exxcept for the interference of the US/EU...

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I'm frankly surprised you didn't go straight to Hegel's account of the origin's of the modern nation state which he discusses in his Elements of the Philosophy of Right. To summarize his argument, the modern nation state is more than just a form of political organization but a mechanism for producing modern "subjects" and "citizens" precisely from the raw material of "folk" whose historic identities were linked traditionally to tribes, clans or other more-or-less extended ethno-social groupings. What the state introduces is the set of formal legal relationships not only between subjects and the state but between individual subjects within the state and, in fact, between individual subjects within the traditional family structure itself. So, what were once "organic" or "natural" forms of being-in-the world, now become functions or products of legal status - of rights and responsibilities - which, not surprisingly, lends itself quite well to the demands of capitalism in its early, modern and post-modern manifestations.

Thus, it is not surprising that following the dissolution of empires after WWI and WW2 that former colonial subjects would assume the form of social and political organization which best guaranteed their ability to slot into the emerging capitalist world order, with its corresponding political, financial and economic institutions. And it is also not surprising that the United States and other post-colonial Western powers would encourage this approach, however begrudgingly, as in the cases of Algeria, Angola, Vietnam, etc., insofar as it facilitated ongoing neo-colonial forms of exploitation and control, a good deal of which persisted even after countries such as Niger, Burkina Faso, Mali and other former French colonies gained putative "independence". So I don't think you adequately take into consideration the impact of capitalism on the evolution of the nation state as the dominant form of "modern" socio-political organization.

In the absence of viable alternatives to nation states, we should not be surprised nor overly critical when former colonies ended up adopting that form of social organization. However, as you note, in many instances the states formed after the departure of the United Kingdom, France, Portugal, Germany, Italy, etc., or the collapse of the Ottoman and Austro-Hungarian empires (or even the collapse of the former Soviet Union), did not correspond to an underlying cultural, ethnic or religious homogeneity, but were stuck with the borders imposed on them by relatively recent history - e.g., the Treaty of Versaille, Sikes-Picot, etc., - and therefore had to deal precisely with equitable distributions of power and representation, or face internal conflict.

In hindsight, one might wish that the history of societal organization had taken a different or "better" path, though I kept waiting for you to suggest what that might look like and you didn't offer any suggestion. You concede the empires of the past not only can't be conjured back into existence but left a lot to be desired to those who lived under their control. Some were more tolerant or benevolent than others, but all of them demanded subservience to imperial authority and strictly limited and controlled alternative, competing forms of political authority. The United States has attempted, over the course of its own imperial trajectory, to assert political and economic hegemony in ways that preserve the appearance of individual state sovereignty, while never hesitating to violate that sovereignty when deemed necessary. This is something that even loyal vassals like Germany are finding out, and which disloyal vassals like Iraq learned the hard way.

Since we are saddled with nation states for the near future - to paraphrase the racist Churchill: "Nation states are terrible, but every other form of socio-political organization are worse." - we at least should be encouraged by the emergence of a multi-polar world order and corresponding organizations based on greater respect for national sovereignty and greater international cooperation, and that doesn't involve the tyranny of the United States and it's "rules-based" international order.

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