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'The reality is that an actual major conflict between Russia and the West would be fought overwhelmingly with missiles and drones, and would be extremely one-sided. The Russians don’t have the capability, if they ever did, to overrun western Europe with conventional ground forces: indeed, I’ve argued, and continue to believe, that even the full occupation of Ukraine would be too ambitious a target. But current, let alone near-future, Russian missiles and drones could strike western targets from land sea and air: the Pentagon, the Elysée, 10 Downing Street, would all be vulnerable, and even carpeting the surface of western states with Patriot batteries (if they could ever be deployed in such numbers) wouldn’t do much to stop them. And it’s enough to look at a map to see why, even if the West were to develop similar missiles, its aircraft wouldn’t be able to get close enough to launch them. Geography is a bitch. But then this isn’t a new discovery. In one of the least-studied parts of Book 1 of On War, Clausewitz insisted on “the country” as an “integral element” of conflict, and the importance of fortresses, rivers and mountains for swallowing up forces that would otherwise be available for combat: something that those who complain about the Russians “going slow” in Ukraine might do well to reflect upon........In other words, the “war” that politicians and pundits seem gleefully to anticipate, will not take place, because it can’t take place. There are a number of things that could happen, ranging from small-scale air and sea clashes, to massive and paralysing Russian attacks on one or more western countries, to very small-scale political deployments on the flanks. But not much more than that. The idea of massive armoured battles in the Baltic States is a fantasy, and let us hope that no western government ever actually takes it seriously. There are more important and more fundamental things to worry about just now.'

Precisely, which begs the question 'Why do we' (in the UK mainly) insist on continually baiting Russia? I have thought about this for decades and reached the conclusion that 'we' are the problem (mainly). During the Soviet days the 'comrades' in the USSR really believed in 'peaceful co-existence' BECAUSE THEY KNEW IT WAS THE WEST THAT WANTED TO DESTROY THEM. There was a long history of it.

This is why when they built new buildings they all incorporated reinforced concrete air-raid shelters in them, some of them nuclear capable - the very buildings that in the line of fortress towns in the Donbas are now having to be systematically demolished by FAB 3000 bombs.

What did we build? Nothing. Our inate feeling of superiority told us that we would never be on the receiving end of missile attacks.

All they (Russia and China) want is to develop and win global credibility and influence in that way - thus 'Belt and Road' and BRICS. War is wasteful and hard and unpleasant.

This explains why Russia (and China) have concentrated on missile technology and missile defence (S500 series) and now appear to be ahead of 'the west' in hypersonics etc. If 'we' attack them, then they will wait for our non-existent army to roll eastwards, and take out our military central nervous system. The new Oreshnik missile is something of a mystery but in my view is a hypersonic surgical instrument that can demolish GCHQ (for instance) without much collatoral damage and no fall-out. Hypersonic Brain surgery is the new form of war - along with information space propaganda (the only thing 'the west' is remotely good at mainly thanks to advertising and Hollywood).

What should we do about this? First STOP PROVOKING CONFLICT. Second, develop an effective air defence system round Britain which at the moment is just a patchwork. Third, abandon our overseas bases and build a domestic defence naval force. Fourth - concentrate on domestic investment to develop our infrastructure and offer partnerships to work with Russia and China. SUCK UP TO THEM - LIKE WE DID TO THE USA FOLLOWING WW2. We are the past. They are the future.

In other words acknowledge we are no longer 'world players' and abandon the deep cultural superiority that sees all others as somehow being inferior to us. The staggering complaceny that refuses to accept that Russia has weapons superior to 'ours' and that China outproduces the west now in virtually everything amuses but also angers me because it is such a waste. Am I alone coming from a background and education that admires those who are successful and doesn't hate them for it? I do not want to be enemies with them.

We need a complete rethink of everything. The elite that I was brought up with and have fought all my life had the capacity to acknowledge and do this. But the present lot are simply incapable of self examination and reflection. They won't even discuss it.

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Thanks.

Just one reflection. There was a time when the British and French did have the capability to deploy relatively large armies very far from home in unfamiliar territory across oceans. The Crimean War was one example. Despite the myriad of British blunders they did it and even resolved the logistics after the first winter with such innovations as a railway being newly built from Balaclava up to the front lines. Such a feat today would likely take years. Just think how long it took the sclerotic MoD to address the need for appropriate armoured vehicles in Iraq.

The more I think about modern western states (and the private sector too) the more I believe that relative capability to do any thing real has heavily regressed. I am exaggerating but we seem to be a civilisation that can do PowerPoint and reports but not much else. Perhaps it’s a good thing. The European states of 1914 (even the allegedly backward ones) all had the ability to mobilise mass armies and send millions of men off to fight. The modern day regimes cannot even send a battalion off to war.

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